I have a friend that gets tested and passes on a regular bases. Shes smokes weed on a schedule like its her job. Claims that her system is so saturated with THC it would take her a year to cleanse and I believe her.
So, one day over a blunt, I asked her what was her secret.
This is what I leaned!
Subbing Sucks
First, I hate using substitute urine. It doesn’t matter if its synthetic or real, subbing is tricky and should only be done if you have no other choice.
Reliable detoxes made for marijuana are always my personal goto. But I know, some people can stay clean for months and still test positive.
If thats you, subbing piss might be your only choice.
Real is Better than Synthetic Pee
Real clean urine is always going to be the best bet. The problem is real urine breaks down fast and usually needs to be used right away.
Synthetics sometimes don’t work and have their own set of problems. Check out this article first, if you plan on using synthetic pee.
How to Pass a Urine Test With Someone Else’s Pee
These rules are a bit extreme and you don’t have to follow them to the “T”. But she swears by them claims that theres no way to fail with this method.
It took here a few failed tests and a lot of guidance from others in her situation learn this, hope it helps!
Use the Same Sex
For the most part it shouldn’t really matter, but play it safe. Labs that do per-employment screenings don’t usually do hormone testing.
But under other circumstances, it can be an issue. We all know the story about the guy who used his girls pee.
She didn’t smoke pot and stopped drinking months ago. So he thought he would be good to go.
Little did he know then, she had stopped drinking for a reason. The results came clean, no drugs and positive for pregnancy.
Is this urban legend true?, Don’t know and not testing it.
Bottle and Freeze Right Away
Piss starts to break down right away. The first time she tried to use real urine, she kept the bottle in the bathroom over night.
That morning, only about 8 hours later, it was unusable. The bottom of the bottle had a white powdery layer, the top was almost like an oil.
No matter how much you try to shake it, the powder completely dissolve and oil wont blend back in.
Freeze it with in 2-4 hours max after you get it.
Best bottle to Keep Frozen Urine In
The type of bottle you use depends on how long your planing on storing it for. If it’s only for a month or two, a plastic 8oz water bottle is good.
But if you think its going to be longer than 6 months to a year, 8oz glass is best.
- Plastic is porous and when heat the pee in a microwave, it can make a mess.
- Glass can break when you freeze and/or heat
You can use regular 16oz water bottle, but there will be too much air in the bottle. And any extra pee you don’t use is trashed after you heat it.
Keep it Almost Air Tight
You can keep frozen pee in the freezer for along time as long as you store it right. The less air you have in the container the better.
Liquid expands when it freezes, so make sure there is enough room in the container.
- Fill it almost to the top and place in freezer without the cap.
- Check it after a few hours.
- If it the frost over flows a little, its OK, cut it off
- Making it flush with the cap, close it and store.
- If its only half the bottle, crush it down and cap it
You only need 1oz -2oz for urine test sample. So don’t worry to much about the amount. Having extra is not a bad thing.
How To Thaw and Heat
Nuking it before it’s liquid is a terrible idea. Thawing and heating is really tricky. There are a couple of ways you can do it, but allowing it to slowly melt before you heat it is the best method.
Steps:
- Remove from Freezer and thaw in fridge for 24hrs
- Remove from fridge, shake and place on counter for 1hr (room temp)
- Shake, microwave for 5 to 10 seconds tops, shake again before using
If you do this slow defrost method, the pee will look as fresh as it did the day it was bottled.
Don’t Re-Freeze
Once you thaw it, use it or lose it.
You will probably notice that once frozen urine is thawed, it doesn’t look the same. Its in layers, from darkest at the bottom to light at the top.
After heating, you’ll notice a white sediment on the bottom of the bottle. That sediment once re-frozen cakes up and will be very hard to dissolve a second time.
Reheating Pee more than Once
Don’t thaw and heat urine more than once. The minerals will start to break down after the first time. Urea decomposes in heat, reheating will break it down and you risk failing.
How Long Can Urine Be Stored in The Freezer?
In the right conditions, you can keep urine in the freezer for a year or more. To play it safe, only keep what your going to use within 6 months.
If your constantly being tested, storing multiple bottles is a good idea. Use a sharpie to write the date on the bottle.
Failing Specific Gravity Test
LabCorp and Quest Diagnostics are determined to stop cheaters. They come up will all types of additional tests that make it harder to pass. SG or Specific Gravity is a part of the tests for creatine levels and diluted urine.
For some reason, people fail for SG when they use pee that was frozen. Nobody really knows why this happens, but here are 3 possible reasons.
- The urines diluted to start with
- You added water to it
- The pee was stored in plastic for a long time
- reheated and/or refrozen pee
By following the guideline in this article you should not have any issues. But if you need to be certain, you can grab urine adulterant test strips online.
That’s it
Learning how to pass a drug test with frozen urine can take some time to master. But, once you get used to doing the right way, your almost guaranteed to pass every time.
Have you ever done it this way, or do you have a few tips to share. Hit us up on the comments below.
Harry says
Most of the “facts” in this article are total nonsense. Pee that has “gone bad” in 8 hours? Seriously? With “white powder and oil”? Total garbage. If you want to help people, write an honest, straight-forward article. No one needs to read an op-ed full of crap….
zym says
I just recently had to get clean, took me 6 weeks as I’m a frequent user. Now that I can pass a test, I’m saving my urine until I indulge again. I’m using breast milk storage bags as they double seal and can sit upright in the freezer. There is also a space to label it too.
admin says
Thanks for the feedback, If you have some tips to share, please do.
admin says
Cool, let us know how it goes!
Elizabeth Serrano says
I am so praying this method works, already have a bottle in the freezer just waiting for the time to use it. Ill sure post if passed or not :3
admin says
Yes, please get back to us. Just make sure to get your sample to the right temps!
E baby says
Trying this method today, although I do not have a full 24 hours to unthaw the urine…suggestions? I have maybe four hours.
Anon says
I have pain conditions and get tested by my doc every couple month to make sure I m taking the meds at the right lvls, which is nonsense cause it’s measured in nanograms when you take mg pills, so of course it gonna come back as greater then 5000ng but thats besides the point. to keep clean for green, I have used refrigerated pee that is like 2-3weeks old, typically any longer I’ll freeze it and never had an kssue incase I indulge in something else, and they do put it through a mass spec/LC, not the cheap dip tests, and never had an issue . I Just had to take a labcorp test for a job, they suck btw…and was legit clean cause I didn’t want to risk it, I did one with quest a few yrs ago, also legit clean, but they only do a cheap 5 panel test, how many 1000s of ppl recruiters hire that dont pass, they arnt spending the money on specific gravity and all that, I would guess, I do say guess, that they just do a cheap strip test unless it’s for a high level position, that orders anything other then a 5 panel basic test cause even with insurance the mass spec tests are about $200-300 a pop, while the others are about 25$. With so many ppl failing for jobs, what do u think they r spending, btw, I am prescribed to a lot of pain meds, and my labcorp test came back totally clean, so if u do take opiates u only need to worry about heroin, morphine and codein, Derivatives of hdroin, if prescribed morphine, the u will have to prove it, but oxy, dilaudid, ect..are all separate tests
admin says
Hey, sorry for the late response…can you tell us how it went? thanks
admin says
Thanks!!, thats some great first-hand information!. What the longest you’ve stored clean pee frozen and passed?
Jeff Jacobs says
Hope this works. Tried quick fix plus version 6.2 and failed a 5 panel test at the lab. I was told my sample was invalad due to lack of uric acid. The quick fix website claimed version 6.2 contains uric acid but is absent from the list of ingredients on the actual package. Drinks have never worked for me. I’m done trusting these shady products from companies who could care less about the countless individuals like myself who have suffered a significant loss due to their lies.
Purple buds says
Really nervous. I have been smoking sence I was in middle school I’m now twenty eight. My body has so much thc in it that I won’t b. Clean for along time now I’m on probation and I stopped smoking weed but I still fail d a test after two months of not smoking. I think the judge don’t understand. So I started to freeze my sons pee. I use a plastic Zip lock bag will that work or does it have to be a bottle or glass
Purplebuds says
So I left the pee in the freezer over night while I was at work. Came home to defrost it. But it turned and had white cloudiness tint to it I’m guess it went bad ?
Regina says
OK my problem is I take a medicine and my doc test me every month to makes sure my levels are right. Well I ran out early and I go to the doc on the 10th. I know it wouldn’t be in my system still so I saved some of my urine a few days ago go use to. I put it in a double zip Lock bag and froze it. I really need it to work. I have never done this before and I have to pass.
Marguerite Barone says
Don’t know I’ll let you know tomorrow
Jimmy says
The method in this article is legit I’ve passed many this way for doctor in fact….if u have clean pee and need it to contain opiates you will have to melt a pill in the pee….how ever it will come back asopiate and hydrocodone for some reason when your body doesn’t metabolize opiates it tests that way.as far as how to heat or speed thaw….put it on you defroster in car on the way keep a temp strip on it heat to 106 degrees contain it and by the time you use it generally it’s 100 or lower . All I know good luck my fellow pot loverz!
admin says
wow, thats for the feedback. I’m sure it will help alot of us!!
admin says
Zip lock is not the best way to store it, but for a short period of time you should be good. I would use a plastic water bottle filled to the brim nest time. Freezing pee in a container that has too much air in it can be a problem. But you should be good, as long as its clean 🙂
admin says
You should be good as long as its stored properly, 🙂
admin says
Hey, great question! also, sorry for the late response. That doesn’t mean its bad necessarily, but the lab tech might fail it. If pee has been sitting around for a while its starts to brake down and seperate like that. Its important to freeze fresh pee as soon as possible to avoid that. If after you defrost it, that happens try to shake it up and get it mixed back in. If it dosen’t work, tossing it might be a good idea
admin says
Purp, sorry for the late response. The way you store it depends on how long you plan to store it. Glass jar for long term, but usually a used water bottle is fine. When detoxing is going to take so long like in your case. I would suggest doing a Keto diet, drinking a lot of water and exercising to speed up the processes. But talk to your doctor first, keto can cause problems for some ppl.
admin says
quick fix plus version 6.2 and failed – invalid due to lack of uric acid Thanks sooo much for that info!, I’m sorry to hear about that, if your only choice is subbing piss, always go with the real thing. To many problems with synthetics!
Dnice says
This only works foe women at least parts of it-
Ok, I’ve been doing this for 3 years now. I get clean one the night before or the day of the test when possible..
When I heat to temp I fill a coffee cup about half way with water, I then heat to almost boiling (about 2 mins) I use one of the five hour energy bottles, clean WELL. I typically use dawn dish detergent (the blue). Once the water has been heated I pour the clean pee into the clean five hour energy bottle and set it into the cup of hot water, twisting frequently kinda like u would a baby bottle. I use my pinky to shake and test temp if it is hot to the touch I take the bottle out dry well all around it.
Now this is where it can be tricky. I use medical tape and aluminum foil, just one layer covering the top or the bottle and medical tape ( the clear stretchy kind is the ONLY one that will work. I fasten them aluminum onto the top and wrap a good ten inches of the medical tape around the top and divided part of the bottle, I then take my nail.amd just press right under the top all around to secure. I then flip it upside down to insure it is sealed. Then insert into vagina (ewh i know) however if done right none should get on or in you. I have stored clean urine in the fridge for no longer than a week and frozen no longer than two months with same heating method except for frozen I take it put of the freezer and let it thaw over night in the fridge..
Hope this helps someone!! Like I said I’ve gone 3 years and never failed.
Bill says
Took a Dot drug test used quick fix didn’t work had to retest so going to use real pea this time
admin says
is that for lab tests, sticks or cups? ..thanks for the detailed info
jazzy says
i personally have frozen my urine in a pill bottle then put that in ziploc baggie..i put it in fridge nite b4 then in morning set out to room temp..i have a digital thermometer to ck temp..if i heat it i try to heat to 100 then immediately put it in my tiny bottle and put it under my boob in my bra..by the time i do my test its cooled to my body temp..ive used this method routinely and have never failed..just hoping i didnt just jinx myself for sharing..good luck everyone
Sue says
Anyone ever answer the question about methadpne pee?
Anon says
I successfully subbed my own urine for drug screens for three years. These were done via LabCorp and included a full urinalysis with BUN, specific gravity, etc. Honestly, I recommend using Ziplock freezer bags… they’re thicker and you can squeeze out any excess air. They also allow the urine to thaw quickly when placed in warm water. To be extra safe, I would place the baggie of frozen urine in *another* Ziplock bag just in case of a leak during thawing in a warm water bath, but that never happened. Often precipitates (sediment) will form in frozen urine; this will not affect the lab values, but if appearance is a concern, the urine can be strained thru a coffee filter or a good quality paper towel.
Cathy says
If you use clean urine and melt an oxy in it and store it in the fridge for 2 or 3 days will it show for oxy? Or how would you do it to show oxy in the urine? Help please
Frozen4me says
A prior post stated that a crushed up oxy will test positive for hydrocodone which I think is correct. Some pills can be crushed and pass (benzos) but oxy has to pass through the body to release the proper chemicals. I don’t know the specifics but the test is set up to test that way because oxy breaks down in two different stages as it passes through the body releasing different chemicals than a crushed pill.
Frozen4me says
Reply to Harry: The problem with the white powder in frozen urine post is legit. I have experienced it personally. However, I was really dehydrated at the time and my urine was darker than Burger King sweet tea. But with “hydrated” urine I don’t have that problem.
Please help says
I f I have my son pee and I put it in a small 4 oz. cough syrup bottle, how long will it last? without freezing or refrigerating? I mean he leaves at 6:45 and the drug test place opens at 8-will I be alright or no?
Grandma 420 says
I have frozen my urine and have passed many drug screens. The only thing I do (illegally) is pot, but it’s enough to prevent you from getting a job or if ya have a doctor who is anti-marijuana. At any rate, I freeze my own clean urine in several small pill bottles (wash out first of course). I defrost the bottle in hot water an hour before I leave for urine screen. Make sure the temp is a little above normal body temp range of 94°-96°. I always wear skinny jeans to keep bottle close to your body… I put it inside my undies where it’s warmest. Has worked every time. No sediment, no cloudiness and pass every time.
Chris Pratt says
Fascinating. I’m job hunting and have zero interest in stopping smoking. A good friend left me a jar, and I froze the contents in a silicone container and the condom I had prepared for use. Since the job really wasn’t a fit I didn’t have to use it, but I’m keeping it until I can get him to do me another round and freeze immediately (this was in a hot car for an hour) just for peace of mind.
When you can text someone you see once a year (but have been friends with for 20 years) and ask them to leave you clean urine in the parking lot of their company so you can pass, you know you have a good friend and a generous soulmate for life. I literally had 36 hours to obtain clean urine, and since almost everyone I know takes medications or smokes, I was stuck. I finally asked a couple of family members, but they thought I was kidding and didn’t respond until that morning of the interview. Yes, I asked my family for PEE!
The fact that none of the family members believed me (I have a well-paying job that I have begun to hate but have not told anyone I am leaving)the fact that they thought it was hysterical shows the change in attitudes. Because I’m such a rather straight-laced nerdy conservative type, kind a like Chris Pratt, they’re still shocked I’m a midnight toker..
Chris Evans says
Storing them in condoms in the freezer (and then putting it in side a second condom during defrost) seems to be the most efficient method according to some stuff I read last night.
Scarlett says
Lol it won’t take a year to get clean no matter how much you smoke hun. Do some research on the matter 😉 it is simple biology.
MaryO says
So….my first time with this. I’m 68 years old and drink wine (maybe 2-3 glasses per night). I also have severe lower back pain and my doctor says I have a choice – test for “NO alcohol” or my pain pills. I’ve decided I do not need to choose. 🙂 So…..I got clean (4 days worth and it was PAINFUL) and dropped today at my doctors office. I also bought 4 energy bottles as mentioned earlier and peed when I got home and stored in the clean bottles. This may be too much information but I need to make sure I got this right. I put the bottles in the freezer and marked them – I have 4. Am I good??? The day before my doctors appointment I’ll take out 1 bottle and thaw gently. Am I doing this right?????
admin says
If its for alcohol only, and not a random testing. you might be able to get away with it just by doing a quick detox before the tests… But, to answer your question. thaw it, shake the heck out of it, until its all mixed back up. heat and use! Remember most ppl that fail subbing is due to sample temps!
admin says
Thats what I used to think. But, since I been in this business, I have actually heard from others that have failed after 9 months or more clean. Its biology, bodyfat % is a major factor.
admin says
Natural condoms are porous, so I gues go latex. Also not suggested for long term storage. BUT, let us know how it works out for you.
admin says
Easy method!, great!
admin says
You will be good, just make sure its warm when you give your sample
Da Kid says
I’ve started out using urine that wasn’t frozen,but like yu say yu only got a couple of hours then it breaks down. First I get the clean urine and put it ina 4to6 oz eye drop bottle it’s very thin. I then take it under warm water and check the temp with a digital thermometer. Once it’s 100 degrees I put it in my briefs and it stays body temp if I have any doubts about the temp I piss on the thermometer sticker on the outside of the test cup and bingo gottem again. But this is the 1st time I use frozen urine
Da Kid says
I used piss that wasn’t frozen plenty of times get the clean piss run it under the warm faucet check it with a digital thermometer once 100 degrees place in ur briefs it will stay body temp if any doubts piss on the temp stick on the outside of test cup
PETER says
I use my FoodSaver vacuum sealer machine with plastic freezer bags. It works great. I use scissors and cut the bags down to Long strips and seal the edges and seal the top. I get all the air out. I saw them in my undies as needed and they’re nice and warm. Makes subbing easy
GEORGE says
I have been freezing my urine for a few years. I’m a veteran and I am tested every month by the VA. I just take out of my freezer some urine I froze when I was clean in food mason jars and dethaw in in warm water. I get past the test every time. Stupid VA.
Fellow disabled vet says
Why is the VA testing you for ganja?
PollyMacpherson says
I didn’t read all the way through as it would take me quite awhile.
To answer the question of the METHADONE PEE being frozen~ It will not having any effects on the methadone if frozen.
Question about THAW TIME~ It does not really depend on the size of the bottle. But I’m not talking 8oz or water bottle size… that is just a waste of good pee. I use old prescription bottles which hold more that enough for a UA. That good pee is precious, (especially if you are getting it from someone else who has to have methadone but nothing else in it. Hard to come by) So anyway, just take the pee out of the freezer about 12 hrs before you’re going to need it and put it in the fridge (I take mine out when I go to bed and it’s ready when I wake up). In the am, don’t worry if it hasn’t all melted. Fill a glass of water and put it in the microwave for about 1 min then put the container of pee in the hot water. Then go about your morning business or whatever you do. The pee should be totally melted in about 5 or so min. (Don’t microwave your pee) I really do think it’s best to put it in the smallest possible container though. If you need to, take the pee out of the water, reheat the water (not too hot) and put the pee back in. You shouldn’t have to do it twice, unless you’re using a large container, which you really shouldn’t be.
**I go to a methadone clinic and have to be ready to pee observed, and I’m not talking cameras (plus I am female so that makes it a bit more “complicated”) plus I have to be ready to pee EVERY SINGLE DAY. In the beginning i was SO stressed, but once I got a routine and technique down it’s just a part of my routine.
If any females out there would like to know how I do my observed (someone hovering in the bathroom with me) UA’s, I would be happy to share. 😉
Jason s says
Hello everyone, just wanted to let you know if you don’t wanna chance freezing pee or using synthetic then I suggest using dehydrated clean pee from testclear. I’ve used it for about four years and passed every time. It’s about 40 bucks but it’s worth it. But is freezing urine a good idea??does it really work??and I’ve been smoking everyday for like id say ten years or so. But I’ve been clean for over two months. Will it be clean??
Johnny says
I am on federal probation. Havent smoked pot in years. Been saving my clean urine in 8 ounce mason jars for the past few days. I boil the brand new mason jars and caps before i pee in them. Then i freeze them immediately. I really hope this works. I have a whizzanator because they watch me pee. After i pee infront of the probation officer we seal up my sample and put it in a fridge to send to the lab. If anyone has any extra tips please share them with me. I have 12 jars saved of clean frozen urine. I think i am going to wait till i have 30. But i drank last night so im going to wait till the alcohol is out of my system before i start saving more clean urine.
Jon Doe says
I freeze my urine and use it later and have been doing this for about ten years now. I generally thaw it the night before, pour it through a coffee filter into a plastic cup, and then transfer it into a small translucent plastic hoppies oil type bottle. I generally cut itb with just a little water if it’s rather dark. I have never failed using this method. You have to be sure not to use to much water though or you will dilute it. If you don’t want to have to cut it with water make sure you are well hydrated when you initially pee into the storage bottle. The clearer the urine is from the start the better. The key to getting away with this is adequate temper. When one gives a sample it has to be between 95 to 100 degrees Fahrenheit otherwise it can be flagged. I generally heat it by running under water until it’s at least room temperature. After that, one hour before I give my sample I take two envelope rubber bands and step into them with one leg, after this I tuck the bottle between my ball sack and my leg and use the two rubber bands to secure it. As long as you do this at least one hour before you give your sample it will always be the perfect temperature when you use. Sometimes if I’m running behind I will set it on the dash and turn the heat up all the way with the bottle placed directly over the defrost heating duct. I have used this method for ten years now with multiple Suboxone Dr.’s and pre employment testing. It has never let me down!
The kid says
Polly Macpherson,
I also go to methadone clinic but I haven’t mastered the “concealed swap”!! Still learning!!
Betty says
I have been using my own frozen urine for a couple of years now. I always stock up so that when I feel like eating my edibles, or if I Mess up, then I’m okay. Also, for Storing, I use urine sample cups from the doctors office or the hospital. It’s worked for the last couple years now (knock on wood). I pray that everyone has a truly blessed and wonderful day
George says
Ok this may sound stupid but I take tramadol well 5 days ago I took my last one so I pissed in a bottle it’s froze and tomm I got to go piss and I need to show up with them in my system will it still be in my piss the piss that’s in the bottle
Chikki says
One way to get urine to the right temp is to put hot water, about 110°, in a travel coffee cup with the lid on. Put the thawed but not heated small bottle of urine in the bottle right bef u leave for ur appt. Mine is about 25 mins away. I use a thermometer to test the water on my way there a couple of times, but my the time I get there its normally around 99°. If it doesntcool quick enuf I take it out of the travel cup.for a few. I also use a small flat container which I take in by putting between my butt cheeks lol. Seems like somewhere safe enuf to where it wont fall out either.
Grace says
I would like to know how to pass a urine test (subbing). I don’t know when it will be so I have to be prepared every day. I have frozen urine and I know how to prepare as I have done this before; however, i am not sure if I can refreeze (immediately) the thawed out urine if I didn’t use it or wasn’t called that day for a random ua. I have limited test urine, so I’m just trying to save it. I did read somewhere if u don’t use it, lose it. But, I have also heard you can refreeze. Does anybody know?
Chikki says
One way to get urine to the right temp is to put the container in hot water and get it to about 110°, in a travel coffee cup with the lid on. Put the thawed but not heated small bottle of urine in the travel mug right bef u leave for ur appt. Mine is about 25 mins away. I use a thermometer to test the water on my way there a couple of times, but by the time I get there its normally around 99°. If it doesnt cool quick enuf I take it out of the travel cup.for a few. I also use a small flat container which I take in by putting between my butt cheeks lol. Seems like somewhere safe enuf to where it wont fall out or be noticed either. No one goes in the bathroom w me so I’m good. Just seen so many posts of how to keep it warm so figured I’d throw this info in here.